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#1337 Concerned Renter 2017-02-18 04:31
Hello, I have a quick question about off street parking. I live in a house on a street and I have to use off street parking for my vehicle. Is it illegal if someone parks in front of my house where I park? I had to park at my neighbors front of his house due to someone always taking my spot, any input on this topic would be appreciated, what can I do?

Saanich Police Responded:

Where permitted, parking on the street is public parking. Anyone can park in front of your house, or your neighbours, regardless of where they live. Parking in a driveway or parking lot is private parking and is controlled by the property owner.
#1336 mick 2017-02-14 18:33
Regarding noise by-laws. Is there a difference between riding or revving a motorcycle if working on it in your yard and having gas powered tools like lawnmowers/weed wackers? If someone can run a lawnmower and weed wacker why can't I play loud music? A homeowner doesn't need a permit to cut their lawn inside of the noise by-law hours. There is so much noise in the day so in theory playing music with a sub would be legal?

Saanich Police Responded:

This question would be better answered by Bylaw Enforcement. However I would imagine that the spirit behind the bylaw is that mowing your lawn and keeping your property in decent shape benefits the whole community, while loud music and vehicles are not. The disturbance of your music does not outweigh the benefits.
#1335 Neighbour 2017-02-09 07:02
I live near a home the does a very popular Christmas light display every year. Many of he lawns near the property have been rutted and ruined from visitors
parking to view it. It is especially bad at the corner of Tuxedo and Mc Briar. Who is responsible for the repair ?

Saanich Police Responded:

That is a question better suited for a civil litigation lawyer unfortunately. That being said; the parking bylaws prohibit persons from parking off the roadway. This is referred to as "Parking on a Boulevard".
#1334 john 2017-01-19 16:59
I have a question about noise bylaws. an answer say construction noise is permitted from 7am to 9pm yet someone can't ride a dirtbike on their property in that time? Construction noise can be ore annoying.

Saanich Police Responded:

Specific questions in regards to bylaws may be better answered by the Bylaws Dept.

In reading the noise bylaw, the exemption for construction states the work must be in accordance with a proper permit.
#1333 Curious 2017-01-13 19:05
Just curious if it is illegal to dumpster dive here in Victoria.

Saanich Police Responded:

Each municipality has their own specific rules, but generally it is illegal. In Saanich, the Garbage Collection and Disposal Bylaw specifically prohibits that behaviour.

The CRD also has bylaws prohibiting going through roadside recycle bins.
#1332 Alyssa 2017-01-12 08:26
what number do I call about students parking on a residential street. Midgard by uvic is jammed up with students parking on the street, when there are multipule signs that say no parking. my garbage didn't get picked up because of this, same with the people across the street.

Saanich Police Responded:

Hi Alyssa. Saanich has a parking enforcement unit which is administered through the Police Department. You can call the complaints desk at 250-475-4321 Option 1 when those vehicles are there and they will send a bylaw officer.
#1331 David 2017-01-04 08:52
I live in Cadboro Bay. I see in a news item that the Calgary Police have a Speed Watch Program that allows community volunteers to accompany a police officer to measure the speed of traffic on a neighbourhood street of concern. Does Saanich offer such a program? If not, who could I contact to try to initiate it? Thank You & here is the link to the article:
http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/2017/01/04/community-speed-watch-helps-calgary-communities.html

Saanich Police Responded:

Thanks David for the information. No we do not have such a program. I have forwarded your message to our Traffic Division.
#1330 C. 2016-12-30 11:02
Hi,
My ex husband stole my credit card and made an expensive purchase. The credit card company will not do anything because he knows the PIN. Can I press charges through the police?

Saanich Police Responded:

Without knowing all the details, I would encourage you to contact our report desk and have a police officer investigate to determine if an offence has occurred.
#1329 Kevin 2016-12-26 08:00
Hi Saanich Police,
Can you settle a long discussion (argument?) in my family? Is it required to signal a turn when road names change and the road turns, but the "natural" road is continuing? This may be a unique situation in Saanich. If you turn off Telegraph Bay Rd. onto Seaview Rd and then head up the hill, the road turns left onto Tudor Ave while going straight leads you onto Sea View Rd. Some members of my family believe that as they are turning onto a new road, they are required to signal. However, the road lines continue unbroken around the corner from Seaview Rd to Tudor AVe, so others feel it is misleading to signal at this point (as it might indicate you are turning into a driveway). I hope the question is clear.

Thank you,
Kevin

Saanich Police response:

Rock, Paper, Scissors is a great way to settle most disagreements. But in this case the answer is clear and it is not required to signal as you are continuing along the natural right-of-way. You are only required to signal when your vehicles turn may affect other traffic.
#1328 Luke 2016-12-26 00:59
Most mornings I notice the drive thru traffic at the Tim Hortons on Shelbourne near Blair is blocking access into the parking lot for many businesses. There is a sign in the parking lot asking the drive thru traffic not to block the main laneway of the parking lot, but obviously that is being ignored. Is this the business (ie Tim Hortons) responsibility to enforce or Saanich PD as it blocks both traffic turning left and right off of Shelbourne. It can be very frustrating when I need to access that parking lot off the Shelbourne side and have to wait for over 5 minutes to turn left when jerks can't park their cars and walk into the store for their double double and instead choose to inconvenience the rest of us by blocking access.

Saanich Police response:

Unfortunately this is the responsibility of the property owners, not the police.
#1327 Patsy 2016-11-21 18:47
Hi, thank you for providing this great service. I live on Davida Ave and the parking is absolutely jammed sometimes. People from other streets park here, often on the road. How do we go about getting residential parking rules? Thanks alot.

Saanich Police response:

Residential parking signs, unfortunately, would not prohibit other residents from the neighbourhood from parking on your street. In any event, the Engineering Department at Municipal Hall sets parking zones.
#1326 C. 2016-11-11 16:19
I wanted to say thanks to the officer who pulled me over at Tolmie & Alder on Nov.11. He was patient with my vintage car that required special attention and explained my options clearly. He turned what could have been a nightmare situation into a minor incident/learni ng experience. He put up with my feisty nature until we had everything figured out. I appreciate meeting officers who are willing to talk and reason with civilians, it breaks the preconception that officers are power-hungry or 'out to get you'.

Saanich Police response:

Thanks for the comment. I've passed it on to the Traffic Supervisor.
#1325 Ed P 2016-10-30 16:47
Hi, Saanich Police

Can you enlighten me as to when one can enter a left-turn lane separated from the through lanes by a solid white line? I'm referring to the left turn lane from McKenzie eastbound to turn left onto Shelbourne, where there is a driveway entrance to University Heights Centre. Can one enter after the line to the Centre? Is the situation changed if the solid white line has an opening after the driveway (reference: Cedar Hill Road northbound at Cedar Hill X)

Saanich Police response:

Ed,

One may enter the lane where there is a break in the solid white line.

I am familiar with the area you describe - it and similar could use some re-configuratio n to improve the flow and safety of vehicle traffic. This is done through Engineering at Municipal Hall
#1324 Wendy O 2016-10-25 15:16
Hello, I recall seeing info a while ago on a youth police program; was this a spring break or summer opportunity? I can't remember if it was with Saanich or VicPD, are you familiar with something like this? Abbotsford has a program like this and it's aimed at youth who are interested in a career in policing.

Saanich Police Response:

Wendy,

For many years SPD took part in a spring break "police camp", but in recent years were unable to secure funding for this event. Although feedback and attendance were continually high, the unfortunate choice had to be made to discontinue the program.
#1323 Daryl 2016-09-15 14:05
Sage Lane is a Private Road.
Can a non resident of that street park on it for a short period. IE: 1 hour.
Thank you

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:
Daryl,
Unless signage indicates otherwise, parking would be permitted as with any other street.
Having examined this locations via Google Street View, I believe signage is in place that prohibits parking along the roadway, at least in one portion.
#1322 Lindsay 2016-09-15 11:01
I was wondering if you could please clear up the bylaw surrounding parking on Rogers Avenue (and the cul-de-sac). As I am aware the signs state that there is to be no parking in between something like 8-9am and again from 2-3pm. I understand that this is because the residents don’t want their driveways blocked and I can fully understand that. However, I am wondering the rules about dropping off my children at the path located at the end of Rogers Ave at the cul-de-sac. The actual drop off for Rogers Elementary is usually very congested with a lot of parents ignoring the “no parking” rule at the circle. It has become so frustrating that I have been dropping off my children at the cul-de-sac instead. I make sure to never block a driveway and I am there (never getting out of my vehicle) for no more than 30 seconds.

Today I was approached by what I can only assume is a PAC member from Rogers telling me that I am not allowed to drop off my children there anymore. I wanted to ask you, the source, about whether or not I can continue to drop my children off at the cul-de-sac as I am never there for long and I am not actually parking.

Thank you for your time regarding this matter.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Lindsay,
Under the motor vehicle act, "Park" is defined as: "when prohibited, means the standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except when standing temporarily for the purpose of and while actually engaged in loading or unloading".

This allows for a vehicle to stop lawfully to the right side of the roadway, not blocking traffic or driveways, where no alternate signage prohibits this action (specific to drop off/pick up).

Conversely, "Stop (or stand)" is defined as: "(a) when required, a complete cessation from movement, and
(b) when prohibited, the stopping or standing of a vehicle, whether occupied or not, except when necessary to avoid conflict with other traffic or to comply with the directions of a peace officer or traffic control device".

At present, I am unaware of signage being in place in this specific location that prohibits either.
#1321 Karen 2016-09-14 22:07
I am moving into a condo on Ophir and Church street. Can I use the resident only parking on Ophir street? Do I need to purchase a decal to show I am a resident? How is this enforced? Thank you

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Karen,
Your vehicle is required to be registered to your residence, or, where it is most often parked. As we have access to these records, this is how we verify that vehicles are parked in accordance with the signage. Any guests who elect to park in these areas, should they be ticketed, can appeal and provide the details of the persons they were visiting while so parked.
Hope this accurately answers your question.
#1320 Frustrated Parent 2016-09-09 11:38
Cloverdale School has a passenger drop off zone on Linwood. Last year the school had seismic upgrades done and since then, the area has been a problem.

The Thriftys next to the school has taken to using the area as staff parking leaving no spaces for the parents to use. This is causing huge safety issues with vehicles parking on the residential side of this very narrow road and children darting across the street to get to the school. The school has signs posted but more importantly, there are signs posted high on the utility poles that clearly state... NO PARKING -- PASSENGER ZONE MON-FRI. I am relatively certain that these are municipality signs. Thriftys management has stated that there is no bylaw that restricts their employees from parking there but I would think that the signage would be all that is needed. I have called Saanich parking enforcement on more than one occasion but the calls have not been returned. Is there something else that can be done to solve this problem? Thanks for your time!

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

You are correct that these are municipal signs which restrict parking. I have personally contacted the parking enforcement and asked that they do their own examination of the problem to see if clear communication with area businesses and ticketing cannot return things to the previously smooth drop off.
#1319 Parker 2016-09-04 20:44
Hello,

We have a resident on Elm Street who has just moved in and is the owner of a super bike... for four days in a row now, he has zoomed up and down the street at irritate speeds, often doing wheelies at all hours of the day or night. Our street if filled with children. Other than speaking with him personally, what else can we do to have him stop driving [in this manner]?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Parker,
If you are otherwise unsuccessful, our Traffic Safety Unit is primarily responsible to deal with driving complaint, which you can make in person at our front counter, through our non-emergency line 250-475-4321, or through our online driving complaints form
http://saanichpolice.ca/index.php/driving-complaints-202
#1318 Cathy 2016-08-24 19:51
Today at a red light, I was preparing to turn right onto Borden St from McKenzie and a cyclist rode up on the right of my vehicle on McKenzie and then swung in front of my vehicle, riding across McKenzie on the crosswalk. She did not stop on the sidewalk or even pause to cross in front of my vehicle. I had checked my right was clear, and then my left, the timing was such that she must have approach in that time it took me to look left. I saw her just in time to avoid proceeding with a right turn. Please advise if at a red light, should the cyclist stop, stand on the sideway and walk across the intersection at the cross walk? Of course I understand it is the primary responsibility to avoid cyclists and pedestrians despite the behaviour of either. Thank you.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Cathy,

You are correct, unless riding the bicycle in traffic and therefore operating as a vehicle (obeying all the rules for regular vehicles), the cyclist should have dismounted and crossed. Bicycles are not permitted to ride on sidewalks for a variety of safety reasons for all road users.

Luckily this near miss did not end up as it could have!
#1317 sleepyhead 2016-08-18 22:36
I have a question about noise bylaws. I live (condo building) directly behind a very popular restaurant near Cloverdale and Blanshard. They are open past midnight most nights. The crowd after 9:00 PM is rowdier and usually quite intoxicated. In addition to that the restaurant STAFF who hang outside the back (kitchen) door can be really loud and this can be up to an hour or more after closing! Is there any Saanich signage that allows for a bylaw "reminder"? This happens every summer. It is too hot to sleep with our windows closed. I call the restaurant and sometimes the hotel if it's after midnight but calling about 5 times every summer seems ridiculous. One would think that new staff would be informed of the noise bylaw!

Thanks.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

This is a common issue where residential and mixed-commercia l use buildings intersect. My suggestion is to speak with our crime prevention officer, who can liaise with the business in question about suitable noise levels and how the noise suppression bylaw applies to them, and their clientele. With any hope, this will remedy the problem for the summer months and beyond.
#1316 Lindsay 2016-08-18 20:58
Hello - I was just wondering about parking restrictions on Saanich streets. There is a house on my block that has 3 vehicles parked outside of their fenced property. Rather than the vehicles being parked parallel with the road, the driver(s) of the cars either angle parks the cars, or more often reverse stall parks against their fence line. This leads to the front end of the vehicles sticking out of their property on about 1/3 of the residential street. One of the vehicles is a large cube van and visibility of the road gets greatly reduced when so much of the vehicle is out on the road. Can anything be done about this parking behaviour? Thanks!

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Lindsay,

I believe it would be best to make a parking complaint through our non-emergency line (250-475-4321), so that we can see for ourselves to determine a remedy. Please let us know the time of day that would most likely represent the problem.
#1315 Amanda 2016-08-12 07:31
I'm just wondering about noise by laws and specifically construction in a residential area. What time is machinery allowed to be operated starting at?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Amanda,

According to the Noise Suppression Bylaw, 1993, No. 7059 - construction noise is generally permitted Mon-Sat 7am to 9pm.
#1314 R 2016-08-11 08:35
I found a wallet and phone in the middle of Tillicum Rd, already run over. There is ID in it but its from out of town. Do I leave this with your office, give it to an officer, or take it to a bank or library? Tks.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Found property should be turned over to police. You can either stop in to see us at 760 Vernon Ave, or call our non-emergency line (250-475-4321) to report and have an officer come by to pick up the item.
#1313 Kristen 2016-07-18 17:10
I live on a residential street in Gordon Head that forks into 2 dead ends at its terminus. People are always taking the corners too fast, and there are many children in the neighborhood. How do we begin the process of requesting stop signs at this intersection?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Kristen,

Engineering at Saanich Municipal Hall is in control of this aspect of the community. Visit http://www.saanich.ca/EN/footer/connect-with-us/contacts-directory/engineering.html
or in person at 770 Vernon Ave.
#1312 Greg B 2016-07-14 21:21
Hello,

Is there a speed limit for cyclists on Galloping Goose Trail? I saw a pack (peloton?) of 4 roaad cyclists tonight at the Burnside underpass heading to Selkirk Trestle, and they were going at least 35kph.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Greg,

The Galloping Goose Trail belongs to the CRD. Checking their site I found a link to their brochure: https://www.crd.bc.ca/docs/default-source/parks-pdf/gglochsidebrochure.pdf?sfvrsn=2

I am unable to find any speed limit, but note a "trail etiquette" to control speed; therefore nothing enforceable, per se.

I will send a note to our Bike Section to further their education and safety particularly for this location.
#1311 Leigh 2016-04-26 16:48
Wondering if it is legal for our neighbours to be running their kids dirt bikes up and down their private driveway/lane within Saanich? They have typical noisy engines, disgusting smelling exhaust and obviously no mufflers. Surely this isn't ok?! If not, is it a noise suppression issue we take up with Saanich Bylaw Enforcement or someone else?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Operation on private property is permitted; however, the noise suppression bylaw is enforceable at all hours. I suggest you have a chat with your neighbour and ask that they amend when they operate or take action to reduce the noise level. Failing a remedy through this route, feel free to contact our non-emergency line 250-475-4321 and we will gladly assist where possible.
#1310 bonnie 2016-04-19 16:15
I look after business propertys. In Victoria we had to post sigNs referring to the Bylaws, to give more enforcement for panhandling, soliciting, and loitering. Do we have to do the same in Saanich. Tx

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Posted signs are not required for the bylaw to be enforced.
#1309 peggy j 2016-04-08 07:11
Good Morning
Just wanted to acknowledge a young police women I had contact with on April 6 around 10:15 am on Mckenzie Ave. She couldn't have been more helpful and more importantly kind to me. I am sorry I didn't get her name but in my thinking she is a "star".
Thank you so much!
Peggy J
#1308 Dale 2016-04-07 16:22
Just want to point out the latest hazard I see around, not only Saanich but, well, everywhere. This is becoming the 'new' 'proceed through amber light preventing left turns in t a timely manner at intersections.' I'm referring to crossing over centre lines around inside curves. Very often I approach opposite direction traffic with 'lazy' drivers crossing over centrelines on divided roadways encroaching on opposite travel lanes. This is VERY dangerous but I see it all the time. Do the police note an increase in this behaviour and are there plans to enforce this in future?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

An increase in this behaviour has not been brought to our attention yet. Feel free to contact us through our driving complaints page and let us know of any specific areas you have noted this behaviour, and our Traffic Safety Unit can conduct assessment and avenues for enforcement.
#1307 Dale 2016-04-07 16:17
This forum is very informative, thanks for providing a valuable service.

I notice on approach to Mt Doug park on Shelbourne Street and towards the south end of Doncaster Drive from Cedar Hill road there are signs prohibiting vehicles over 10,000kg GVW and 5,500 kg GVW respectively from proceeding further. Are these weights Actual weights of the trucks on the road, or are they intended to be LICENSED GVW? And are these Regulation signs warranting a charge under the Motor Vehicle Act for contravening these weights?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

These signs are for the vehicle actual weight, including load. The signs are enforceable. There is also a truck route bylaw in Saanich, where Shelbourne is the designated route, which turns into Cordova Bay Road through Mount Douglas Park.
#1306 Ray 2016-03-24 12:48
Hi,

I have a two-part question:

1. In what circumstances do the police have the right to request ID from a person?

2. Does a person have the right to refuse to talk to police and/or produce ID?

Thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

This is a a more complicated matter than the question reflects.

Police may request ID from anyone, the must aspect is under certain conditions. A good resource is the BC Civil Liberties handbook, available online, for an appropriate and full response.
#1305 mick 2016-02-26 13:23
Hi

So I watch the show Cops and see people arrested for drug paraphernalia like brillo pads and meth pipes/bongs and needles ad scales. Is there anything like that in Canada and BC. Thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Drug paraphernalia can lead to seizure and charges, depending on the specifics - scales especially when investigating drug trafficking.
#1304 A G 2016-02-21 20:41
Hello,

New residents have an extremely loud literal "garage band" that practices for hours at a time, sometimes quite late at night (after 10 pm). It is disturbing even inside my residence. Can this be addressed under the noise bylaw?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

The noise suppression bylaw is in effect at all hours.
#1303 Dan 2016-02-11 19:53
Hi, I have a question about parking. On our street people park on street in front of houses where there is no sidewalk. Do people have a say who can park in front of their house or is it first come first serve?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Unless signage states "Residential Only" or other similar restrictions, parking is open to all. Even with those signs, it would not prevent your neighbour, per se, from parking in front of your house.
#1302 Tony 2016-02-01 11:18
Hi Saanich Police, This is the scenario:
I am driving on the left most lane on Blanshard street south bound. I have observed several vehicles speed up from the middle lane at the traffic stop on Pandora then immediately cut into the leftmost lane that I am driving on and make a stop to turn left on to Johnson Street.
My question: Because I am heading straight and not making the left is it illegal for motorists to do this? It increases the likelihood of rear end collision by other motorists - brake checking. Am I legally permitted to drive on this lane if I am moving straight (the left turn in unmarked. Its happened too many times to me.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Tony,

From what you describe, the driving behaviour, although discourteous, appears within the MVA. Unless the lane is designated for left turn traffic only, you are permitted to drive straight through the intersection.
#1301 Parker 2016-01-29 16:14
Just wanted to say thank you to your team of police officers who are canvassing my neighbourhood and trying to bring down this a**hole who has committed such terrible crimes.

Several officers were sweeping through Pear, Elm and Church street and were extremely courteous... even knocked on our door to let us know they were out and about our house...

A few hours later, a police officer came canvassing to take statements. We were not much help but more so, we were thankful that you guys are working so hard to bring this guy in. Good luck and thank you for all your hard work!
#1300 Greg 2016-01-29 15:22
Hi. When turning right into the Uptown parking garage off of Saanich Rd., the right-hand lane is marked with a diamond indicating a bus lane. Could you please clear up for me when a vehicle other than a bus is and is not allowed to be in a marked bus lane? (This is one example of a 'newer' road marking that has been introduced since my driver training 35 years ago...). Thank-you.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Greg,

The diamond sign designates buses only; however, at this particular location it is a bot confusing. Technically, this lane is to allow buses to pull out from the transit hub and travel straight through Oak Street, as there is an advanced light for transit at this intersection. Vehicle traffic is supposed to stay left of this lane, right up till the broken white line, but this leaves little room to maneuver to the right, so many drivers cross the bike lane (solid white line, which is technically illegal to cross) far sooner. The fault of this set-up has been brought to engineering's attention.

If you wish to refresh yourself on BC's driving rules, including signs, I recommend the ICBC learner's guide:
http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/Documents/driver-full.pdf
#1299 Kyle 2016-01-10 16:16
Can you provide clarification for your response to Jimmy on 2015-06-10 (http://www.saanichpolice.ca/index.php/comments-and-questions#comment-1807)

Jimmy is describing crossing Blenkinsop at Judge Pl which is an intersection. Based on the BC MVA defintion of a crosswalk, there are three unmarked crosswalks at this intersection. One crossing Judge and two crossing Blenkinsop at the north and south side of the Judge Pl roadway. Section 179(1) says a pedestrian in these crosswalks has the right of way subject to 179(2). So long as Jimmy isn't stepping into the crosswalks such that the motorists would not be able to stop in time, he is well within the law to cross here and not have to wait for a break in traffic as you suggest. The answer you gave seems to interpret the situation he described as falling under section 180 which I find confusing.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Kyle,

The MVA can be hard to interpret, as one often must rely on several sections to get a full answer, and there have been discussions at the government level of making the MVA more user-friendly. That said, we will attempt to clarify our previous response:

You are correct that these are considered unmarked crosswalks. Although this permits pedestrians to cross and vehicles are supposed to yield to pedestrians, this does not mean that every unmarked crossing is a safe location to cross.

In our response to Jimmy "...pedestrian must wait for a break in traffic when crossing anywhere other than a crosswalk", I am speaking about mid-block, not in an unmarked crosswalk.

We are familiar with this intersection, and it can be difficult pulling out in a vehicle, let alone attempting to cross on foot. When it comes down to right-of-way, technicality does not mean a pedestrian will win a battle against a vehicle (the car always wins). This is where it is hard to decide when it is safe to cross, as the sight-lines do not offer much (if any) margin of error, and why we suggested finding a safer location that offers more visibility.

Hope this clarifies.
#1298 Margaret W 2015-12-24 13:45
Dear Road Integrated Safety team:
I had the pleasure of participating in several road-side stops over the Christmas season (on Blanshard, Pat Bay Highway and Mount Doug Parkway). I want to say THANK-YOU to your members for their good conduct and professionalism ---but most of all, THANK-YOU for keeping our roads safe---it is not the easiest of tasks---but your members are fulfilling their roles appropriately-- -and it is a comfortable feeling for me to know that you are out there, so that all may enjoy a safe holiday season. I wish you all a very merry Christmas and a wonderful new year.
#1297 Juan 2015-12-11 16:00
Hello,
Is it legal to block out your personal details on your insurance papers? I only ask, because of the risk if a car is stolen with a garage opener then the thief could have access to your now known address.
Thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:
We have seen this done for similar reasons. There is not a specific offense for it, and police can verify your address in other ways. One option is to keep a photocopy with the address blocked out in the vehicle, and carry the originals with you or hide the originals within the vehicle.
#1296 vic 2015-12-07 17:04
Are people allowed to walk through my unfenced backyard as a shortcut to get to my street? Behind my house is a cul-de-sac. Once in awhile someone walking from the cul-de-sac cuts through my property as a shortcut to get to street in fornt of my house - walking right by my living room window and in between cars in my driveway.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:
The short answer is NO. You may be able to remedy it by speaking with the individual; however, signs, fencing and landscaping are far more clear the route is not open as a right of way.
#1295 Scott 2015-11-27 15:04
Hi,

if I drive with ANY controlled drug ,weather street or prescribed, in my system, can I get a DUI? Are there any exempt? By the way, no i don't drive while on drugs, I have a friend who sometimes drives after weed.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Saanich Police receives and investigates reports of people driving impaired by drug(s).

Although far lower instance than impaired by alcohol, driving while impaired by drug still happens frequently and is actively enforced by all police. This can be street drug, over-the-counte r (OTC), or prescribed drugs. As you have likely noted many cold medications warn to not drive or operate equipment when taking that medication.

Many prescribed drugs also impair one's ability to drive.

As for street drugs: one would think it is common sense; however, people just do not seem to understand the risk they are putting other road users and themselves in!

Driving while impaired by drug is illegal. Full stop.
#1294 Leh 2015-11-05 15:43
Hi,

I had an individual getting upset at me for parking behind the sidewalk on a lawn section of a friends yard. I didn't cross the sidewalk and drove into the driveway then onto the lawn as to not block anyone in. Is this illegal? The individual was a neighbour. My tires were ~50cm from the sidewalk.

Thanks!

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Leh,

Vehicles cannot be parked on the boulevard, which is the portion of land parallel to the roadway that the Municipality technically owns. Look for utility poles and boxes which sit on "city" land (ranges from almost none to 6' or more). For your specific scenario - check out the Saanich GIS maps available through www.saanich.ca and toggle the layers to show property lines and road edges. This will give you an idea where your friends' property begins/ends.
#1293 Chris 2015-11-04 15:00
Hello,

I have a question about vehicle exhaust. I'm looking for information about side exit exhaust (before the rear tire). I haven't been able to find any information about the legalities of side exit exhaust on a car in the MVA:

Muffler
7.03
(1)A motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine shall be equipped with an exhaust muffler consisting of a series of pipes or chambers which ensures that the exhaust
gases from the engine are cooled and expelled without excessive noise.

(2) Cut-outs prohibited
- No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an
internal combustion engine when the muffler with which the vehicle is equipped is cut out or disconnected from the engine.

(3) Part removal prohibited
- No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine equipped with a muffler from which has been removed any
baffle plate or other part.

(4) Alteration prohibited
- No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine equipped with a muffler the exhaust outlet of which has been opened or widened.

(5)Noise increase or flames prohibited
- No person shall drive or operate a motor vehicle propelled by an internal combustion engine equipped with a muffler or exhaust system to
which is attached any device which increases the noise of the expulsion of the gases from the engine or allows a flame to be emitted from the exhaust system.
[am. B.C. Reg. 29/59.]

There is a section in commercial vehicles:

"In addition to the requirements of section 7.03, every commercial passenger vehicle shall be equipped with an airtight metal exhaust pipe and muffler which carries the exhaust gases to a point beyond the body skirt of the vehicle."

Thanks,

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Chris,

You have checked the appropriate areas, and I have further checked the Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations. So long as all the components of the exhaust remain intact, the noise level remains within legal limits, and the outlet does not protrude too far from the side of the vehicle... I cannot quote any legislation that prevents side exhaust. That said, you'll have to be mindful if that exhaust has the ability to enter into the passenger cabin (proximity to windows)? Alterations of this extent will likely require an inspection certificate from a licensed facility.
#1292 mack 2015-10-16 18:21
HI yes I was wondering about winter tire laws. When and where do they apply. I mean would they be required on a road that is a bit frosty? Where does the law on tires apply, only when the road becomes a federal highway?

thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Winter tires are required on specific routes, which are to be clearly marked by government posted signs with the dates they are required.

More information can be found at http://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/transportation/driving-and-cycling/driving/traveller-information/seasonal/winter-driving/winter-tires-and-chains/about-winter-tires

and about winter tires under the MVA here
http://bclaws.ca/civix/document/LOC/complete/statreg/--%20M%20--/47_Motor%20Vehicle%20Act%20%5BRSBC%201996%5D%20c.%20318/00_Act/96318_05.xml#section208
#1291 Sebastian 2015-09-29 08:59
My vehicle has been towed from my own stall at my apartment. No notice was given prior to nor after the towing. I had removed the plates because I was in the process of transferring ownership (was to be finalized the next morning). Were they within their legal rights to seize my vehicle with no warning nor any notice afterwards?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Sebastian,

An owner of private property has the right to tow any vehicle from it, however this becomes a civil matter between the property owner and the vehicle owner. The tow company should be able to tell you who ordered the vehicle removed, and you can follow up from there.
#1290 Gwen G 2015-09-28 07:27
I live on a street that has residential parking. There is a nearby house that parks 7 large vans used for business on the road. Is there any bylaws limiting the number of cars per residence?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Gwen,

Check out the Saanich streets and traffic regulation bylaw, which deals with parking ( http://www.saanich.ca/living/pdf/traffic8382.pdf ). Unless there are signs limiting parking for duration, to residents only, or the vehicles are over sized and/or blocking access, I do not see an offense occurring. You can always call our non-emergency line (250-475-4321) and speak with our parking commissionaire to assist with your concern.
#1289 Kate 2015-09-24 20:13
Is it a traffic violation if a driver speeds up to block my car trying to merge onto the highway? Because of the speed required when joining a 90km/hr speed zone, this could have resulted in an accident were it not for my defensive driving. I was shaken and distressed by this incident so after driving on and having an opportunity to speak with said driver while at a traffic stop I took it. I let him know I was upset and he said it was my responsibility to yield at the merge. I disagree since a merge isn't possible if the oncoming traffic blocks the entering cars. I want to know if his driving behaviour is reportable since it was so scary for me.
Thank you!

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Kate,

The concept of moving over when a vehicle is attempting to merge onto the highway is one of courtesy, not law. That said, the driving behaviour explained could be described as unsafe, with undue care and attention, or without consideration (or a combination of these) which is covered by s.144 MVA.

To answer your question: yes, this is a reportable event, which can be done through our non-emergency line or through our driving complaints form, whereby a traffic member will review the report and follow up as necessary.
#1288 Anon 2015-09-17 09:03
I am wondering - where there is a separate Left Turn traffic light usually positioned on the median (such as, on the Pay Bay North and South-bound making a Left turn onto Sayward Rd.) - is it illegal to make a left turn when the Left Turn light is Red and the main traffic lights (for people going straight or right) are green? Or is that like a normal left turn?
I've never seen separated left turn lights except around Victoria and I have seen some people make the turn on a red, which seems crazy to me. Thanks!

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

At an intersection where there is a dedicated left turn lane that is controlled by a traffic light, a driver is supposed to follow the direction of the traffic light and only proceed when the light is green.

If someone were to drive through the intersection, making a left hand turn against the red light, they could be charged under the motor vehicle act for Red Light At Intersection, or for Disobey Traffic Control.

The only left turn permitted in a red light would be a left turn onto a one way street. In this circumstance, the driver is becoming part of the traffic flow, and not crossing traffic.

Thanks for your question.
#1287 M Cooper 2015-09-13 13:04
Thanks Saanich police for responding to our call of a noisy party in the 3500blk Quadra .Wild drunks running around the hood in their underwear frightening my granddaughter on our fun sleepover.
While we try to tolerate the odd noisy party this one seemed to be getting louder as the evening turned to morning.
#1286 Terry 2015-06-26 09:03
Motor Vehicle Act questions
1) I drive a manual transmission car. When stopped at a light may I put the car in neutral and take my foot off the clutch?
2) flip flops or bare feet - is there anything that prohibits a person from driving their car in bare feet or flip flops?
Cheers
Terry

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Terry,

We cannot locate anything for BC that prevents a vehicle to be in neutral while stopped, nor a driver from wearing flip flops or driving barefoot.
#1285 Parker 2015-06-17 21:33
My wife and I recently purchased a home on a no-through street with renters on both sides.

One renter has a band that plays every Wednesday night into the evening. Many of the residents do not want to call police as the previous renters in the past were students who created more problems so they stay quiet.

What is the municipal and police take on this? What are my rights as a home owner. He often plays 1030... 11pm at night. I have had to knock on their down only to wait for a break in song to be answered. He has no intention of stopping (his words not mine) and would rather I "text" him if things get too loud...

I hate to waste police man power to speak with him but we don't really know what else to do... playing well into the night is completely unacceptable to me.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Parker,

Everyone has the right to the peaceful enjoyment of their home. Noise must be kept to a reasonable level, whether one refers to the noise bylaw or relies on the criminal code for mischief. You have clearly made attempts to handle the matter with your neighbour directly, with little to no improvement. We suggest you inform us through our non emergency line the next time it is unbearable, and we can make an unbiased assessment of that "reasonableness ", and hopefully assist in improving neighbour relations.
#1284 Jimmy 2015-06-10 16:47
A question regarding crossing the street where there are no crosswalks, if a pedestrian wishes to cross a busy road, at an intersection or T - junction, must the vehicles stop to allow the pedestrians cross or do the pedestrians wait for traffic to clear?

One specific example is crossing Blenkinsop at Judge Pl. Visability is limited due to the hills and curves and traffic tends to exceed the speed limit. Must traffic yeild to pedestrians who wish to cross to and from the path at Judge Pl?

Thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Jimmy,

Pedestrian crossings are a two party responsibility, meaning the pedestrian must wait for a break in traffic when crossing anywhere other than a crosswalk and not enter onto the roadway unless it is safe to do so, and once in the roadway, the driver of a vehicle must exercise due care to avoid collision with the pedestrian.

As a pedestrian, if you are unable to see far enough in either direction to determine it is safe to cross, we recommend crossing at an alternative, safe spot.
#1283 John 2015-05-29 19:02
Are there any regulations governing vehicle headlight luminosity? I find when driving at night and coming head on with another vehicle equipped with LED headlights, they appear blindingly bright and they are on low beam. If you didn't have to share the road, I guess the brighter the better, but we all do and us poor quartz halogen folks need to see as well.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

John,

The BC Motor Vehicle Act Regulation and Canadian Motor Vehicle Safety Act regulates lighting standards, however both are focused on MINIMUM standards, versus the growing issue/concern about maximum brightness. I know there have been some conversations at government level about this issue, however I am not privy to those and cannot offer any further details.

BC Police can utilize powers under the MVAR as available to deal with those cases where lights are improperly directed or become a safety issue, as two quick examples.
#1282 Bun P 2015-05-27 00:58
Hi, I was wondering is it illegal to drive a car without a front bumper support bar? As you know safety standards on newer vehicles have improved, but it's interesting to see older vehicles still on the road with lower safety standards.

Thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

In BC and Canada as a whole we have not (yet) implemented the concept of "aging out" vehicles due to antiquated safety standards. For instance, Japan has a strict vehicle inspection system that more or less forces vehicle owners to upgrade due to rising costs as the vehicle ages.
#1281 Mick 2015-05-23 21:59
Hi. So what counts as a public use road? Would an unpaved logging road at say, Lake Cowichan count as a road a person can for xample, ride a dirtbike on without any drivers licence

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Mick,

Public use roadways comes under the Motor Vehicle Act, specifically the definition of "highway":

Includes
(a) every highway within the meaning of the Transportation Act,
(b) every road, street, lane or right of way designed or intended for or used by the general public for the passage of vehicles, and
(c) every private place or passageway to which the public, for the purpose of the parking or servicing of vehicles, has access or is invited"

Therefore, if the logging road is open for anyone to use without posted restriction, it would be a highway and therefore operation of any motor vehicle would be subject to all areas of the Motor Vehicle Act.
#1280 Anonymous 2015-04-29 11:43
Hi, what do I do if I am experiencing harassment from a previous relationship partner? If it is not at a level of 'prosecutable offence'(or similar), is there still some way to ensure the police have a record of it in case it escalates? Thanks muchly.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

We suggest you come in to speak with our front desk officer to provide more detail so we can provide more informed advice. We are open 24/7 at 760 Vernon Ave.
#1279 Edward B 2015-04-24 08:22
Bylaw 8.16 (b) permits cyclists to ride on crosswalks without dismounting. What indication is there for motorists that he is approaching this type of cycle crossing, and not an ordinary crosswalk. A motorist should know to look much further down a path to see if a cyclist is approaching.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

The bylaw only allows bicycles to ride on crosswalks and sidewalks that are clearly marked for this purpose or as continuations of the Galloping Goose Trail - no others.
There is an equal responsibility for both cyclist and motorist to ensure safe operation.
#1278 Kristen 2015-04-23 20:56
I want to put a "for sale" sign in my car and park it beside my apartment, so I can sell it quicker, but someone told me that it is illegal to do so. I have seen many cars with "for sale" signs in their car, either driving around or parked on the side of the road though. Is it illegal or not?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Vehicles cannot be parked on the roadway for the PRINCIPAL purpose of advertising for sale. If you normally park on the road and have a for sale sign you are not in breach of the bylaw.
#1277 Tiffany G 2015-04-22 11:02
I lost a document with my address and date of birth on it in a public location. Should I be worried? Should I be contacting someone to report potential fraud?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Diligence is always key in avoiding fraud, however not knowing the sensitivity of the document, you may wish to notify the agency that issued to document so that they take extra steps to ensure your privacy and security of information.
#1276 Adrian D 2015-04-14 22:27
I'm a seasoned, driver with 25 years' driving experience, and enjoy a Monday-Friday commute from my home in the peaceful Saanich neighbourhood of Quadra-Cedar Hill to Keating X Road in Saanichton. What I've observed over the past few years is a marked increase in the volume of vehicles on my commute--usuall y on the Pat Bay Autobahn--chang ing lanes without using their turn signals. Is changing lanes without using turn signals permitted under the Motor Vehicle Act (as opposed to turning at an intersection)? While in most cases it's just plain annoying--proba bly because I was taught in driver training back in 1990 to use them--occasiona lly it's a bit dangerous.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Changing lanes without signalling is still an offense under the motor vehicle act. We will speak with our Traffic Safety Unit as a future enforcement project, to hopefully improve safety along this corridor. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
#1275 Sandra 2015-04-14 09:18
Our street is a round-about with an island or peninsula in the centre -we were told this is considered a boulevard and that parking around the centre island is not permitted -our neighbours continue to park around the centre island, blocking traffic -is this allowed? Who do we contact regarding parking violations in Saanich?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

This sounds correct and in contravention of Bylaw 8382. Feel free to discuss with your neighbours. Failing a change in behaviour, please do contact our parking commissionaire for assistance.
#1274 Brian 2015-03-26 16:55
We have a problem where our neighbors park in front of our house (on the road) where our driveway connects to the road. This is where we are supposed to put our garbage and recycle bins. This morning we put them further up the sidewalk in front of that car but the city of Saanich did not collect the garbage.

Is our neighbors car violating any bylaws by blocking the part of the road we are supposed to place our garbage bins?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Bylaw 8382 states that no vehicle may park in front of or within 1.5 metres of each side of a driveway entrance abutting a street.

Hopefully if you can discuss this with your neighbour it will allow for your bins to be in a location suitable for collection. Now knowing the above, if the issue continues please contact our parking commissionaire who can assist.
#1273 Chad 2015-03-01 17:25
I have a question regarding road safety for bicycles: I often see large congregations of cyclists on Saturdays where 20 or more cyclists are riding together. This will often be in silly places such as on narrow roads like Mt. Doug / Cordova Bay rd. Many will ride two abreast, making passing much more difficult and dangerous (since you have to pass so many riders). Is two cyclists riding side by side allowed? The specifics vary [vetted]

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Chad,

Bicyclists are not permitted to ride side-by-side, according to s.183 MVA.
#1272 mick 2015-02-25 17:15
HI there

Is there any law in which a person must stop is a flag person like a construction flag person says to stop?

thanks

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Mick,

As per s.141 of the MVA, one MUST obey flag persons direction.
#1271 Nicholas H 2015-02-25 16:24
My future career is to become a police officer. I have some questions. [vetted]

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Nicholas,

All of our recruit requirements and selection process are outlined in detail on the recruiting area of this webpage.
#1270 John A. 2015-02-25 10:50
Is it legal to do a U-turn on the Pat Bay highway at other than an intersection with a traffic control light?

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

ILLEGAL, as per s.163 MVA.
#1269 Chris J 2015-02-12 17:34
Today I saw a Integrated Road Safety Unit Officer driving and talking on his cell phone. This is something that I see all the time. It is incredibly disrespectful to see officers blatantly flaunting their authority and breaking the laws they are supposed to uphold. This only serves to worsen the relationship between police and the public which is getting worse and worse. As someone who has been tagged with a ticket for talking on a speaker phone seeing this is a little hard to stomach. Saanich Police lost a little bit more of my respect today.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Chris,

Police are exempt from the handheld device law in BC, although our agency directs officers to limit doing so, to pull over where possible, and to limit that behaviour to investigational needs. This has been reaffirmed previously in this forum and several others.

However, if you feel that the officer assigned to IRSU (as you stated, NOT a Saanich Police vehicle), was not operating the IRSU vehicle in a safe manner, I suggest you report your observations to the supervisors at IRSU. Public safety is, and will always be, first priority.
#1268 Kent 2015-01-08 17:00
Good Day. I commute daily thru the mackenzie at Highway 1 Intersection, and often see people standing on the median, or worse walking or running on the narrow median. I even saw a gentleman with his foot in a cast on there. The rock is uneven, and drivers are already stressed, and sometimes focussed more on getting thru the intersection ,even on a yellow light. It does not seem at all safe for people to loiter on the median there, or anywhere for that matter. Is there a law or bylawto prevent this, if so, who is responsible to enforce it, and if not, who should I talk to to try and get one- or create an engineered solution? Someone will get hurt or killed there I fear.

SAANICH POLICE RESPONSE:

Kent,

We are aware of the issue, and wholeheartedly agree about the inherent risk this creates to the individual and drivers.

This is typically dealt with under the Motor Vehicle Act, where we are aware and attend to this issue - we simply cannot be everywhere at all times. If and when you do see this, please do call our non-emergency line 250-475-4321 and we will attend to the matter.

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